In "The Wild Bunch," violence becomes more than a vehicle through which morals are judged. Rather, it confuses the line between right and wrong, displaying conflict in a sense that is even appealing, or aesthetic. That attitude would have been unimaginable in its predecessors, where violence is more referred to than explicitly exhibited. Take "Winchester ’73" as an example: when Young Bull, the leader the Indians, spotted the legendary rifle on the back of Joe Lamont’s horse, only through the reaction of Dutch Henry do we realize the man has been killed and scalped. Would Sam Peckinpah shoot it otherwise, giving Lamont a slow motion as he is shot and falls to the ground? No longer a by-product, violence in "The Wild Bunch" is one of the cores in the film that almost stands on its own. Under earlier code of Westerns, such prominence might be considered deviant, for in the old Westerns heroism, civilization and romance reign over wildness and brutality that protagonists face. Violence, even sometimes embodied by “the good guy,” is controlled. In that sense, it is used to provide contrast to the potency of traditional virtues. Yet in "The Wild Bunch," not only is violence unleashed, but it is ameliorated, galvanized, even appreciated. The massacre at the beginning gloriously magnifies the marvel of bloodshed through shameless frontal shots, close-ups and slow motions, which few directors of Westerns before Peckinpah had used as heavily as he did. Peckinpah adds slow motion shots of victims to the typical “shoot-and-fall” dialogic gunshot scenes in old Westerns, the effect of which is enhanced by Technicolor, which allows more realistic and shocking images of blood squirting from every body part possible.
Coupled with moral ambiguity, violence furthers the sense of mayhem. The short parallel between the bunch in soldier attire and South Texas Temperance Union stand at opposite ends of the moral scale: one stringent, abiding and adamant, the other rampant, defiant and savage. Contrary to the obvious moral choices that old Westerns give us, neither instantly appeals more. The moral ambiguity that Peckinpah deliberately sets up is made more salient when we see the Deke Thornton’s bounty hunters. Though representing “the law,” the reckless and egocentric bounty hunters could not be further from any protagonists in the old Westerns. Merely five minutes into the film, such opening sequence challenges our traditional views and attitudes. Does such situation justify the ensuing violence? Not quite, but by eliminating apparent sides to root for, violent itself grabs our attention. The opening sequence well indicates the complexity of the film, which evolved from the Western prototype to include a more realistic portrayal, one that is imperfect yet closer to life, one that invites diverse reactions and opinions rather than simple cheers for the charming lead such as John Wayne in "Stagecoach" or Montgomery Clift in "Red River." The space "The Wild Bunch" creates for audience reactions is essentially what sets it apart, for the film does not provide answers but questions.
Violence culminates in the grand ending, and precisely the fact that it incurs thrill knocks the audience off their feet. Yet the violence here has gained a different standing. Comradeship and loyalty justify their intent to kill to a degree that we are eager to witness the great massacre that is about to take place. We anxiously wait as the four members of the bunch gradually fill up the frame and stop, their eyes on the target. Anticipation hits its peak when the silence of shock takes place after they kill the general. Then when the massacre begins, our attitude is no different from that of watching a classic gun-shooting climax, only this time with more fury, excitement and emotional turmoil. On the presentation of this massacre sequence, Alexandros Dionosopoulos commented, “The massive use of artillery blows people away. It is stunning.” Unwittingly, his off-the-cuff pun captures the two main aspects of heavy violence: it is a concoction of beauty and disturbance. In a similar manner of the opening sequence, Peckinpah uses quick montage and slow motion to build a landscape of brutality that rivals an epic battle, intertwining visual effects with explosive sonic experience. Desensitized by gore and corpses by this point, we are swept by a swirl of hunger for deconstruction and vengeance. Such liberty probably disturbs us more than the actual slaughter, for the final scene is our getaway from decorum and civility in favor of primitive eye-for-an-eye responses. This is wilderness in its truest sense, not in aiguilles and dunes, but in unchained desires. It is ironic, therefore, to observe how noble loyalty translates into barbarian actions.
"The Wild Bunch" inherits the legacy of Westerns by discussing the clash between wilderness and civilization and the effects it has, one that ultimately has less to do with challenges at the frontier but universal struggle with darker instincts. Peckinpah probably sees this step as necessary, as by the year 1968 the film was made, Westerns were facing a different audience. Typified by Clint Eastwood movies, Spaghetti Westerns reached their peak of popularity. Characterized by low-budget production, foreign locale, and highly fluid and minimalist cinematography[1], Spaghetti Westerns watered down the conventions and cultural paradigms that old Westerns have. Foreign directors and producers, mostly Spaniards or Italians who gave name to the term, reformed the genre through their own lens. Part of the change had to do with pragmatic concerns, such as using a more straightforward cinematographic style due to limited resources. Yet the difference in cultural backgrounds gave rise to the demystification, loss of previously well-defined morality, and increased violence in Spaghetti Westerns, central elements that "The Wild Bunch" undoubtedly assimilates and intensifies.
So why did Peckinpah bullet "The Wild Bunch" with such graphic violence? One argument can be found at the very beginning of the film. We see scorpions besieged by a huge group of ants. The scorpions, though much stronger than any single ant, are defenseless against the vehement attack of the ants. As the ants start devouring the now powerless scorpions, the camera pulls back to reveal the manipulators: a group of children. They smile, laugh and watch attentively, oblivious to such cruelty. The low-angle close-up shots of individual kids against the clear blue sky enhanced the sense of innocence and joy, which drastically contrasts with the violence that is taking place in front of their eyes. The effect almost frightens us more than the actual bloodshed that follows because of the apathy shown in children. Peckinpah seems to points to the possible violent nature of us, or how vulnerable we can be once violence is prevalent in a society. Therefore, it becomes necessary for him to give the film a rough edge, showing what is raw, realistic, rather than the larger-than-life old Westerns of which the values and visions eclipse the ugly side of frontier status quo. Violence in "The Wild Bunch" then becomes a statement itself, suggesting the incorrigibly violent tendency of humans.
Another possibility is the cathartic effect. Commenting on the seductiveness and horror of violence, Peckinpah said:
"The point of the film is to take this façade of movie violence and open it up, get people involved in it so that they are starting to go in it so that they are starting to go in the Hollywood television predicable reaction syndrome, and then twist it so that it’s not fun anymore, just a wave of sickness in the gut…It’s ugly, brutalizing, and bloody fucking awful. It’s not fun and games and cowboys and Indians. It’s a terrible, ugly thing. And yet there’s a certain response that you get from it, an excitement because we’re all violent people." [2]
By injecting a huge dose of violence, Peckinpah provides the audience with a dark picture of their instincts so that they would be able to curb or even purge the violence in them by getting sick of it. Produced and released during the Vietnam War, "The Wild Bunch" conveys Peckinpah’s intention to guide audience through rediscovery, recognition and disgust of violence. Yet the controversial work causes some to entirely refuse the merit of the movie and others to delve into the orgasm of bloodbath, both seen in the reactions of the general public when the movie was released. In that regard, Peckinpah is less successful.
At the onset of the robbery in the opening sequence, Pike Bishop ordered his comrades to keep workers at the post office under control: “If they move, kill ’em!” The close-up of his ruthless, convictive and uber-masculine face froze to a ragged, tough-texture image like the ones on “Wanted” posters, to the left of which is the name “Sam Peckinpah” in big betters. This seems to suggest Peckinpah’s definitive role in the violence presented in the film, as well as the mix of appeal and atrocity that it incurs. Though its use remains controversial to this day, violence in "The Wild Bunch" plays such a prominent role that no one can walk away neglecting the effect it has on the watching experience.
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[1] Tim Dirks, Westerns Films - Sergio Leone’s “Spaghetti” Westerns, 2010,
http://www.filmsite.org/westernfilms5.html. Retrieved 03/27/2010.
[2] David Weddle, If They Move... Kill Em!: The Life and Times of Sam Peckinpah (Grove Press, 2001), 334.
《The Wild Bunch》
红日无惧黄昏,英雄向死而生
近十分钟的铺垫是好戏开场前的润嗓,讲求以一鸣惊人之势震撼全场,爽!来福枪口下众生平等,不顾常人死活,只管全面扫射,极尽囊中之火力,暴力之美学。那每一颗枪子钻入肉里,不够逼真的鲜血从创口四散喷溅,和这西陲边境、文明边缘的小镇一般,被法治抛弃的社会之伤。英雄拯救苍生早就成了荒废胶片里的戏码,现在坐马背上的牛仔,是一万美元就可以六亲不认的强盗,他们凭粗暴结义,靠野蛮止血。此时,他们不再形单影只于沙尘之中面对众敌,神话里的英雄光环开始褪色,取而代之的是越来越像普通人。
英雄或许已经迟幕,但他的决心只有自己能够辜负,如蝎子落入蚁穴,以一当百的自杀式枪战,没有胜算,却足够浪漫。一把火被孩子烧净,被大风扬起,对逐渐死去的老西部片作出悲悯告别,日落黄沙不落,人死故事不死,新的传统在冉冉升起,暴力是它的开场曲。
开始好像是一般的西部故事,到最后,就是Wild Bunch回去拼死搭救被擒的兄弟而全军覆没一节,真是硬碰硬的男人气概、荡气回肠。一般的好莱坞大片都是以大团圆结尾,但是这部片子真的改变了我的印象。
原来不止鸽子吴,杜琪峰的根也在这儿,劫完火车后就成了加强版《放逐》,他们像所有人一样追逐金钱,最后却发现只是活得不那么无聊,佩金法不止是为西部片注入悲天悯人,表现力极强的剪辑肆意渲染罪恶的美感,以及消解所有意义后,原始暴力呈现出来的瘟疫般的传染性
一下午看了两部完全不一样的西部片,挺有意思的。有种吴宇森的即视感,不过还是这个屌多了,抢火车那段真好看,然后最后就是加强版的虎豹小霸王!
半部弃。食之无味弃之可惜,这种从剪辑到文本都硬邦邦的直男西部片真的难看,接受无能,90min还看得下去,144真的无法忍
Peckinpah的文戏或许不咋样,但我实在太爱这电影了开头的枪战和火车打劫足以当作电影剪辑及声效的教科书,最后的以一当百看得热血沸腾港人的日落黄沙译名不得不赞
看过派金派,才知道吴宇森有多渣
【B】五十年前的速度与激情,节奏太慢了,好无聊。
为了能够通过玛帕奇的地盘,交出安琪成为了唯一也是无奈的选择。派克打算带领弟兄们救回安琪,不幸的是为时已晚,安琪已经被杀害。在悲愤交加的派克和玛帕奇之间,一场恶战即将拉开帷幕
可以理解凯瑟琳·毕格罗为什么会受到这部电影的巨大冲击。丰富的镜头调度出精彩的戏剧性,有西部片里常见的文明推进的冲突,暴力如犹如片头儿童戏弄和火烧正在吞噬蝎子的蚁群,在失序的环境里,制造出巨大的文明伤口。开头的抢劫和结尾的厮杀以及中间的追逐与逃亡,显示了恐惧、信念、欲望和尊严对人类行为的影响。那一张张粗糙的面孔下蕴藏着摧毁和拯救的力量。
干脆利落、荡气回肠的西部武侠,久违的狂野粗砺、硬派直男风。江湖险恶,人心叵测,当这世界早已荒芜落寞,善与恶失去了既定的界限,每一种抉择,都是难以预料的不归之路。侠肝义胆,快意恩仇,在这不羁的人生,日落黄沙下,你是否能接受命运的裁决!与其说是西部片最后的荣光,还不如说是久违的觉醒!
西部片行至血腥山姆时期,老去的英雄仅为金钱厮杀。更为讽刺的是,英雄明知暴力时代已然远去,但就是无法做到金盆洗手。派克无以应对同伴的质问(能到哪里去?),4:300的壮举背后除了男人的情义,更多的是殒身于暴力的死本能。而获得赏金和自由的桑顿,也在迷茫中回归了暴力,这就是他们的宿命【8】
(8/10)西部片的超类型发展,萨姆佩金帕充分借鉴了法国新浪潮的剪辑、莱昂内的宽银幕大特写和人物塑造,故事情节是强盗和赏金猎人的框架,暴力镜头几乎上升到一个全新的高度,也许是因为《邦妮与克莱德》的大胆和张扬,这里的枪战、火炮、暴露的女色,都大大的增强了可看行。慢镜头、快速剪切的枪战,喷射的血浆,层层上升的动作戏,暴力美学的鼻祖应该属于萨姆·佩金帕。没有虐杀、没有血浆、没有慢镜头,没有血脉喷张的男性荷尔蒙,还叫什么暴力美学。西部片的复兴之作,改变了以往西部片的神话内核,这里变成了一种带有对峙、愤怒、激情之后的失落感,在不断的追逐、战斗之后产生的倦怠和无所依,一种消极的、迷失的、悲观主义情绪,是属于美国六七十年代的新好莱坞的。
7.5分。男猪突然从杀人如麻的悍匪变成义薄云天的斗士有些莫名其妙,或者说墨西哥人死比美国人死更有震撼吧~~但经典的亦正亦邪的设计还是挺出彩的。而最后的4VS200让我想起了《英雄本色》以及无数山寨片~片头的枪战设计是最大的亮点,悍匪,猎人,民众等等各有特色,绝对精彩~
想要讲述一段草莽英雄情义的喋血故事,但整部电影看到最后的感觉就如最后那场混乱不堪的枪战场面一样,失衡了,整部电影讲的是强盗逻辑中所谓的盗亦有道的概念和想法,但无奈电影叙事结构尤其是文戏段落出了很大的纰漏,让人们看起来十分疲惫,当然开头那段银行劫案的枪击和火车大劫段落十分出彩。
【B+】也许是我看过最棒的西部片开场了:几只蝎子被蚂蚁无情的吞噬,而一旁宛若上帝般的孩童却轻而易举用几把烧着的草团决定了他们的命运,本片所有情节与主题都浓缩在这个蚂蚁-蝎子-孩童的隐喻模板。而银行枪战那段的调度、剪辑与音效都是教科书级,以细腻的技巧去呈现粗粝的暴力美学。结尾的赴死一战也极其动人,仿佛看到了后来吴宇森《喋血双雄》和杜琪峰《放·逐》的影子。只可惜中间那么大段的情节都过于冗长无味,同样是慢节奏,你能感受到莱昂内的西部片内影像情绪的积攒,而佩金帕的处理就只剩下枯燥的视觉体验。如果能剪去二十分钟的废戏也许会更好....
没看进去,没看完,乱糟糟地打了半天,不知道演的个啥。开头混战强杀无辜的市民,跟小孩们残杀无辜的昆虫一样。
没什么感觉 突然变焦 升格 d 日落黄沙The Wild Bunch(1969)山姆·佩金法-双语字幕.HR-HDTV.AC3.1024X576.x264
1.男性的热血与义气;2.两条线索,一粗一细;3.桑顿看见派克的死去,落寞的眼神,内心的基情;4.多处片段的快速剪接应接不暇,热血沸腾,看得真爽。
我们必须放弃手枪再来思考,那些日子一去不复返了。粗犷、恢宏、壮阔,火车抢劫,人马坠河,快速剪辑、慢镜头切换和推的创造性使用,三镜头切换,令人叹服,吴宇森后来偷技。血腥山姆容易被误读,这是一首献给迟暮英雄的挽歌,死亡伴随始终。
1.善恶模糊弱肉强食之世,佩金帕暴力美学上承莱昂内,后启宇森昆汀斯通。2.影片充满廉颇老矣英雄末路的悲怆感,闪回,男性义气于背叛猜忌中磨蚀。3.即使我们中最卑劣的人也希望重回童年-人性本恶:火烧蚂蚁斗蝎,娃娃兵,放冷枪。4.高速剪辑与穿插慢镜。5.枪战波及的模特。6.收尾:秃鹰,劫尸,黄沙。(9.0/10)
快速剪辑是亮点,消解叙事的冗长,并让杀戮场面精彩起来;日暮途穷,英雄末路,奈何归途。