牺牲

圣三位一体的宗教情结和人文关怀，果然缺少背景知识很难理解啊，只能看看经典的长镜头和悲天悯人的情怀，总是以一种特别的，非常真实的感觉去触动，即使中间说的核灾难，也依然是如此真实，我们怎么才能充满希望和信心，去给一棵快要枯萎的树，坚持每天浇水，即使一天只能浇一桶水，从日出到日落，是否愿意以这样一种愚笨的方式，牺牲自己，拯救世界，拯救爱人，拯救你们，我爱的人。最后一幕烧毁的家，是说的救赎吗，看评论里面说，完成自己的许诺，我无法拯救自己。只有最一无所有的状态，才能迎接你。

油画 --娟娟流水声 大海 海鸟 ---声音
一定是每次潮来 潮退 ， 水留在弯岩里 逗留然后旋回着 在重力驱使下找寻
wait---- hope
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What dwarf?
Oh, you know who I mean!
That hunchback!
Eh? The one Nietzsche mentioned.
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76
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And I've always felt as if...
as if the living I've done so far
hasn't actually been real life
but a long wait for it...
a long wait for something real,
something important!
What about you?
00:10:36,2
Yes, if that's what you mean.
00:10:38,
I just never knew you were
interested in that kind of problem.
00:10:
But I am! I most certainly am!
Unfortunately.
Sometimes I get
the most peculiar notions.
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persona??? 前面对 not real
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,272
For some reason, I started
feeling embarrassed on stage.
I was ashamed to impersonate someone
else, to play others' emotions.
But worst of all, I was ashamed
of being honest on stage.
It was a critic who first saw that.
But it wasn't sudden, not at all.
320
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,276
So you mean that an actor
may not keep his ego intact?

That he must lose his identity?
322
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,271
No, not quite.
What I mean is that an actor's
identity dissolves in his roles.
I didn't want my ego dissolved.
There was something in it
that struck me as sinful,
something feminine and weak.
327
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,594
Aha! Feminine!
So that's what's sinful!
328
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,270
I liked you as an actor, so you quit.
That's it!
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00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,268
But it's far too much!
Too much, Otto!

363
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,278
I know it's no sacrifice, but...

364
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,429
And why shouldn't it be?
Of course it's a sacrifice!

365
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,756
Every gift involves a sacrifice.

366
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,430
If not, what kind of gift
would it be?
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From about 1478 to 1482, Leonardo had his own studio in Florence. During this time he got an important commission to paint a church altarpiece, now known as the 'Adoration of the Three Kings'. It is still not done today! The work has figures with only the light and dark areas visible as outlines. The 'Adoration of the Three Kings' shows three kings worshiping the Christ child. Leonardo changed the usual way this scene is usually viewed in the Christian faith.
Three leaders of the Chinese Christian Church[3] cite an alternate proposal for the origin of one of the Magi. They state that many Chinese Christians believe at least one of the Magi came from China. They cite anecdotal evidence about Liu Shang, the chief astrologer during the Han dynasty in China at the time that Jesus was born. Liu Shang discovered a new star the Chinese called the "king star" - which was associated with the birth of a new king. The disappearance of Liu Shang from China's imperial court for two years shortly after this star was discovered, they interpret as perhaps traveling the Silk Road to Bethlehem.
英语？？
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,316
Alexander!
I can't bear it any more!
Please, please!
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653
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,310
I think I know, now.
We simply don't want
to depend on anyone.
When two people love each other,
they don't love in the same way.
One of them is strong,
the other, weaker.
And the weaker is always the one
who loves without reckoning...
without reservation.
[卡比利亚之夜].Nights.Of.Cabiria
----1：13 oh , lord ~`
war~~ the fear of death
从此 他安然与死神下棋
拿枪 杀谁？ 孩子 风动的窗帘 一暗一明
裸体的女人 挺立的小乳房 在孩子的床 周围无目的地走动
我的镜头 如侯猎的豹子 慢慢走进 移动 平行移动
心是平静的 平静到极点
透过Adoration of the Three Kings 玻璃的 背影的走远 摄像机呢？
chance

Piero della Francesca 彼埃罗.德拉.夫朗彻斯卡 老头看的那本画册是谁的画？
again --Adoration of the Three King 映着大树 正面老头来
878
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:24,319
Anyway, I prefer
Piero della Francesca!

879
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,108
<i>As I understood Alexander's words,</i>
<i>he meant</i>
<i>that it is peculiar for a man</i>
<i>to change, of his own free will,</i>
<i>into a work of art.</i>
<i>Generally,</i>
<i>the result of all poetic striving</i>
<i>lies so far from its author</i>
<i>that one can hardly believe</i>
<i>that it is a man-made creation.</i>
<i>In the case of the actor, though,</i>
<i>the reverse is true.</i>
<i>The actor is, himself, his own</i>
<i>creation, his own work of art.</i>、
==persona 演员 actress acting drama--trauma
1：30 again 拿枪 从理疗盒 盒子中
prelude
-964
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,719
put on fresh underwear,
a new jacket, even a tie.
Then I sat down in the chair
to see what I'd made,
through her eyes, as it were.
I...
I sat there...
and looked out through the window.
I had prepared myself
to enjoy the sight.
Anyway, I looked out the window
and saw...
What did I see?
Where had all the beauty gone?

All that was natural.

It was so disgusting.

All that evidence of violence!
戈黛娃夫人（Lady Godiva,或称Godgifu, 约990年—1067年9月10日）是一名英格兰盎格鲁—萨克逊的贵族妇女，依据传说，她为了争取减免丈夫强加于 ... 究竟这个故事中的戈黛娃夫人是称为Godiva还是Godgifu（「gift of God」上帝的礼物）在历史上仍是未知数。 ...
Godiva (or Godgifu) (c. 990?–September 10, 1067) was an Anglo-Saxon noblewoman who, according to legend, rode naked through the streets of Coventry in England in order to gain a remission of the oppressive toll imposed by her husband on his tenants. The name "peeping Tom" for a voyeur comes from later versions of this legend in which a man named Tom watched her ride and was stricken blind.
2007/4/24
迷失于GODIVA
1：49 花瓶振动 后面什么神动
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,755
Save us, Maria!
But why?
You poor, poor man!
Why? No, not that way!
43 glasses 风铃一般
人行道 梦跑 again
1039
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:18,077
I c-c-can't!

1040
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:21,313
I can't!

1041
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,512
Drink this.

1042
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,392
No.

1043
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,272
There...

1044
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,275
It'll soon be over.

1045
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,911
What's frightened you so, Alexander?

1046
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,275
Mama!
裸舞的女人 谁 ？ 鸡
victor
1076
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:33,395
The fact is, what I'm most tired of
is the lot of you.

1077
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,120
Tired of being your nursemaid.

1078
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,080
Your nursemaid and your warden.

1079
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,756
Tired of wiping your noses.
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japan
两次关的音乐？？
一段音乐 笙箫 呜呜
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小孩在给japanese tree 浇水
10
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,998
a monk named Ioann Kolov,
that he should water the tree
each day until it came to life.
Put a few stones there, will you?
Anyway, early every morning
Ioann filled a bucket
with water and went out.
He climbed up the mountain
and watered the withered tree
and in the evening
when darkness had fallen
he returned to the monastery.

18
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,998
He did this for three years.
And one fine day, he climbed
up the mountain and saw
that the whole tree
was covered with blossoms!
Say what you will, but a method,
a system, has its virtues.

22
00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:00,156
You know, sometimes I say to myself,
if every single day,
at exactly the same
stroke of the clock,
one were to perform
the same single act,
like a ritual,
unchanging, systematic,
every day at the same time,
the world would be changed.
Yes, something would change.
It would have to.
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1176
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,958
"In the beginning was the Word."

1177
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:35,753
Why is that, Papa?

1178
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:24,476
This film is dedicated
to my son Andriosha

1179
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:31,836
with hope and confidence
Andrei Tarkovsky
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Au revoir!

138
00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,475
What?

139
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What are you mumbling about?

140
00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,353
"In the beginning was the Word."

141
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,476
But you are mute, mute as a fish.

142
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,159
A little roach! (smelt)
02：05：04 回车
2.11.28----17.22
Most of the film takes place inside or around a house that was specially built for the production. The climactic scene at the end of the film is a long tracking shot in which Alexander burns his house and his possessions. It was done in a single, six minute, fifty second take, often misstated as Tarkovsky's longest shot.[
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Sixtyish philosopher Alexander (Erland Josephson) lives in a beautiful house on an island off Sweden’s Baltic coast, with English wife Adelaide (Susan Fleetwood), teenage daughter Julia (Valerie Maitesse) and young son, known only as Gossen, or “Little Man” (Tommy Kjellvqist). It’s Alexander’s birthday, and he’s visited by eccentric bicycling postman Otto (Allan Erdawll) and smug doctor Viktor (Sven Wollter), who is “carrying on” with Adelaide. Out of the blue, a nuclear war is announced on TV - the telephones and electricity are cut off, and the air is filled with the deafening roar of passing jets. All looks bleak - but then Alexander fervently prays, asking God to avert the impending apocalypse, in return offering to turn his back on his home and family, and take a vow of silence. Next morning, he wakes to find that, somehow, the threat of annihilation has been lifted - and now it’s up to him to keep his side of the bargain...

The Sacrifice is like a compendium of all the ideas (faith, role of artist, power of nature, virtue of childhood) and images (love as levitation, a boy standing by a tree) from his previous six films. As usual, there’s a baffling rush of philosophical debate, stitched together with some of the most astonishing shots in all cinema. Watching this long film is an intermittently dazzling experience, but also somewhat unsatisfying. Just how much of what we’re watching is real, and how much is Alexander’s hallucination - we’re given clues along the way, such a bicycle being parked in a certain way, only to reappear in a slightly different place later on - is open to question. In Tarkovsky’s films, dreams are nothing if not cinematic. But piecing together the director’s “intention” seems to be missing the point. 　　费里尼的【Orchestra Rehearsal】是唯一没看完的，一群人唧唧刮刮地说话说得我头晕，流畅，太流畅了，而我亲近于涩而重的。
　　还有塔可夫斯基，我连关于他的记录片都找来了，【The Genius, The Man, the Legend--Andrei Tarkovsky】瑞典人Michal Leszczylowski拍的，大致是表现塔如何拍【牺牲】，感觉比看【雕刻时光】强多了，塔是个很在意细节和感受的人，凳子怎么摆，窗帘往哪儿飘都特讲究，讲道理却不行，【鲁伯廖夫】DVD里有他的访谈录，他居然爬到一棵树上去讲艺术和人生的意义，我脑子里蹦出两个字：耍猴。【第七封印】和【鲁伯廖夫】一比，柏格曼有必要买块豆腐一头撞死，但【雕刻时光】和【魔灯】一比，可以拔根头发上吊的是塔可夫斯基。当然，这只是我胡说。
The camera work is slow and contains all the hallmarks of Tarkovsky and Nykvist. The film features a haunting soundtrack which has three distinct pieces that stand out: the passionate aria Erbarme dich from Johann Sebastian Bach's Mattheus Passion, soothing Japanese flute music, and eerie traditional chants from the Swedish forests (in the old days farm girls used to call home the livestock from their forest pastures in this way). The film also contains several long closeups of Leonardo da Vinci's Adoration of the Magi.

The film uses long takes more than Tarkovsky's previous films. The opening, post-credits shot (a tracking shot of Alexander, Little Man, and Otto talking and walking) lasts nine minutes and twenty-six seconds, and is the longest take in all of Tarkovsky's work.[citation needed] Shots lasting between six and eight minutes are commonplace in the film, and there are only 115 shots in the entire film.[citation needed]
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It was out of such ideas that I decided to make The Sacrifice. The sole means of returning to a normal relationship with life is to restore one's independence vis-a-vis the material things of life and consequently reaffirm one's spiritual essence. In this film I deal with one of the aspects of this struggle for anyone living in society: the Christian concept of self-sacrifice. If one has never known such a feeling, never experienced such a desire, then, as far as I am concerned, one ceased to be a man, one begins to revert to the animal condition and becomes a strange machine, an object to be experimented with by society and the state. On the other hand, if one acquires a moral autonomy, one may discover within oneself a capacity for self-sacrifice.
不需要 妻子的hysteric
When one is hungry, one goes to a shop and buys something to eat; but when one is truly depressed, in a kind of spiritual crisis. there Is nowhere to go, except to sexologists and psychoanalysts who have no understanding of what is going on inside one. They are voyeurs and chatterboxes, who console you, soothe you and cost you the earth. They are charlatans, but terribly fashionable charlatans.
信息之奴
In my films one often finds the theme of language, whether present or absent. The fact is that the power of speech which has been given us has an absolutely extraordinary influence. It can inspire us to great or evil actions. And yet, these days, it has lost its value. The world is jam packed with empty chatter. All that information of which we pretend to have such need - consider radio and television - all those permanent infinite debates to be found in newspapers, all that is empty and meaningless. We imagine that, to survive, man has to know all kinds of things which in fact he does not need in the slightest; it's a strictly useless kind of knowledge. We shall all die beneath the weight of this garrulous information. In reality, it is better to act than to speak. As for the words, the phrases, with which we communicate - and this applies to art - they ought to be divested of all trace of passion. It is in the nostalgia that we feel for the Olympian principle, for its coldness, its classical sobriety, that resides the magic, the secret, of the great metaphysical masterpieces.
回到你自己introverted rather than the reverse.
Obviously, the artist himself is a creature of passion, but he dilutes that passion in the forms that he creates. In any case, inserting one's own emotions in a work of art is always vulgar. That's why I am so attracted to Oriental art; or else Bach, who is an ideal representative of art, or Leonardo da Vinci. Though each man most be Capable of expressing himself that he must channel his self-expression does not imply having publicly to produce a book or a film. It is this human vanity which is so typical of the West and which is not to be found in the Orient whose philosophy demands that man withdraw into himself, that he be introverted rather than the reverse.
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I could see that he obviously was not very interested in lighting. To him, of primary importance were composition, camera movements, the literally moving image.
Close-ups are also strikingly rare in Tarkovskij's movies. He preferred to see the actors' movements at a distance, almost choreographed, and alway in the center of the frame.
We had special-effects people brought in from England as there was a requirement in place that the house burn down in eight minutes and ten seconds sharp. Otherwise the film cartridge would run out.
For an entire week this scene was meticulously rehearsed. We had decided to not shoot the scene under sunlit conditions, and so we were forced to get up at two o'clock in the morning, do a few test runs, and then to commence shooting the scene at a carefully selected moment just prior to sunrise.

Approximately half-way through the take, my assistant yells out, "Sven - the camera is losing speed! We got twenty..., now we're at sixteen frames per second! What shall we do?"


We received some additional funding through our Japanese co-producer, and in the end we all decided to give it another shot. Nothing is impossible, as Ingmar Bergman was fond of saying. It was his gang behind the camera here. The house was re-built!

Fortunately, it turned out just fantastic. As the smoke billowed forth from the house the sun shone right through it and generated some truly great shading on the ground. It was a lucky strike indeed that the sun appeared - entirely to our advantage, and Tarkovskij was exceedingly pleased when he saw the end result.
I also asked him why he never showed up in Rome. "I was too shy," he said, "Bergman and Fellini are way too big for me."
----------Sven Nykvist
On the Shooting of The Sacrifice

经典的书写者是人。人是不可信赖的。那所以的经典都值得怀疑。千万别迷信，尽管它们是历史的。如果要盲信，圣经算一个，《老子》算一个。它们似乎没有“人的作品”的脆弱和局限。余下的一切都要冷眼旁观。
在电影里，塔尔科夫斯基却必须带着信仰看。不是它早已超凡出尘的缘故，而是缺乏信仰的人难以解读，也无法欣赏。就拿《牺牲》来说吧，为什么亚历山大要烧掉自己的家园？为什么他被家人认为是疯子而送进救护车？为什么他要去寻找邮递员（魔鬼）所说的“魔女”玛利亚？为什么做了玛利亚的情人就能拯救世界？问题的答案就在电影的标题——《牺牲》，是宗教奉献、祭祀的意思。只要我们每天都向日本树浇一桶水，终有一天这棵生命会复活。生命的意义与信仰联系在一起。这种无条件的奉献行为就是信仰。亚历山大（自知得了癌症的塔尔科夫本人）厌倦了和妻子、女儿日复一日过着令人满足而又绝望的小资生活，他怀着拯救“世界末日”的愿望，做了可怕的纵火举动，并期待着人类的新生。躺在树下的孩子代表着人类的希望说了第一句话：“人的开始就是语言，为什么？（《圣经》译为太初有道）”
在塔尔科夫的最后日子里，他不得不为自己的电影艺术做了断。选择与《乡愁》中多米尼科经历相仿的亚历山大做主角，塔氏通过他的喃喃自语、他的疯狂举动表达了自己对人类未来的先天下之忧。约瑟夫森回忆说塔氏常常真诚地谈起他对现代科技、核武器的忧虑，他复杂的天真对约氏的思想产生重大影响，直到今天犹存遗迹。我看到影片的末尾，亚历山大穿着道袍，黑漆漆的底色上着一个阴与阳符号，让我想到塔氏晚年对演员不做控制的导演方式，好像道一般让表演自生自灭，同时每一个演员又产生自己特殊的价值。他把重心放到意境表达上了，比如对古典美术、巴赫音乐的使用，传达出世纪末的文化怀旧情绪；塔氏简明的维密尔式的房间陈设，一窗一床而已；反映人类冲出精神教堂的黑白胶片的插入，都把塔氏的晚年心境与急着做总结的焦虑表露无余。
追求宗教画般的简约高贵的色彩，与尼维斯特出神入化的长镜头使用（如《七部半》中把塔氏的镜头风格说成是长久的凝视是恰如其分的，没有窥视、流览，而是如哲学家的眼睛一般缓缓观察），极佳地契合了塔氏的思想表述，成就了一部重要的堪称《乡愁》前传的电影（此片中他终于燃烧了自己。《潜行者》也相关）。我把这样的电影当成一种开放式的哲学谈话，从一开始对时间的感觉（总在等待真正的人生）、死亡、轮回的二人谈话（也许就是塔式幻想的与奥托所做的谈话），主角一个人独白的厌世、谴世，欣赏古典画作的高贵精神、祁祷——虔诚地转入对神的信仰，对恐惧的表达等等。我想，俄国人毕竟会向虔信投降的，他们深刻的救世论与向伯格曼致敬的瑞典小资性结合在一起。让我弄不清该把塔氏定义为救世者还是逃世者，抑或两者皆有？


附录塔氏与吉迪恩•巴克曼的访谈：“我也像戈尔恰科夫一样永远留在了意大利，似乎命运决定了要这样。安纳托里•索罗尼岑的死加深了我的宿命观。按我的设想，《乡愁》里的戈尔恰科夫和《奉献》里的亚历山大都是要由他来扮演的。他死于癌症，几年以后我也遭此厄运。”
“在国内从不考虑要花多少钱。我的主人公多半是弱者，我喜欢观察他们如何解决与动荡的社会环境的冲突，是退让还是坚持自己的原则。我的好朋友托尼诺帮助我设计了戈这个历史学教授，他的知己只有多米尼克，托斯卡纳居民眼中的疯子。他用世界末日吓唬自己的家人，把他们锁在家中七年之久。他始终寻求生命的意义，在他的观念中就是自由和狂热。另一方面他又像孩童般的好奇和敏感，他不像戈那样精神脆弱而且经历着深刻的生活危机，而很单纯、直截了当，并相信自己醒悟了的潜意识可以找到解决整个社会病态的出路。生活中的强者是那些能始终保持着童稚的信赖和直觉的信念的人。戈恰好缺少对自己的行为的信心，因此对多十分着迷。我认为自己是与土地、人民有着深厚联系的知识分子，我必须尽自己的最大可能创造出我们生活的时代的精神艺术。我尽量运用主观的逻辑——思想、梦境和记忆——代替主体的逻辑。”
“亚历山大是一位随笔作家、戏剧评论家和大学教师，他既体会过大恶（演RIII），也体会过大善（梅什金）。还有面对未来，以尼采专家学者奥托为代表，他说我恐怕不相信上帝。奥托说，不要伤心、不必苦恼、更不要指望什么。房子是塔氏电影结构的基石——代表亲缘、家人和世代的更迭。亚历山大的英国妻子阿德莱德（苏珊•弗利特伍德）当年无疑是个美女，也和意大利的尤金尼亚一样生活上未能得到满足，也穿着和她一样的潇洒服饰。她有一个成年女儿马尔塔（弗兰岑饰。前一次婚姻的产物），还有一个人物是此家人的医生兼朋友维克多（沃尔特）。他们过着悠闲自在的生活，在户外饮茶或咖啡，彼此深深互相吸引。母女间隐含着为英俊医生争风吃醋的意味。电视机里宣布的战争并没有立即带来末日气氛，而是妻子的歇斯底里大发作，她裸露着的光滑双腿晃来晃去，发泄出她内心隐秘的恐惧和情欲：对医生的依恋、对女儿的醋意，对丈夫的不满。摄影机再次推向达芬奇的《博士来拜》，这意味着一件重要的事情就要开始了。亚历山大的主观黑白镜头展现的是他的末日景象，他如同一个造物主。”

2008年?月

    面對近代性及極端科學主義，一切行將毀滅，猶若廣播中通告的大型核災難所昭示的那樣，亞歷山大因故只能在沉默中重複詩與存在主義的靈魂自省（複調配音），後來他將無助地羔羊般的自體完全獻祭并犧牲上帝，并終日沉浸在個人的祈禱之中——此時他或是反對永恆輪回這類典型的東方玄學的，他需要的是一個末世論及其在人間的實現，世界與宇宙的大更新，由當下波及歷史的整體性的圣潔的淨化/毀滅，然而在這表面的世界性的遺忘背後，還存在著永恆記憶的上帝這一本體性的位格。直到象徵著赫爾墨斯的信使驅使之與女僕瑪利亞過夜——祈禱治愈與救贖亞歷山大心靈的竟/必是一個身份貧賤的異端的女巫，她擁有所謂的瑪雅及魔法——基督信仰故與最原始、天真、質樸的自然信仰契合，事實上，具有母性之本體與功能的自然本身即蘊息著先天之圣愛的流溢，她平息了亞歷山大的自我毀滅與毀滅他者的衝動，以喚醒他對母親的記憶及對世界的、被遮蔽的本根的愛——（元）愛和（元）恨構成世界的引導性的本質價值，這才孕育了人的理性及世界的結構（舍勒論）。所以，塔可夫斯基的這一遺作隱喻了他的答案，開始將東方的道玄視為天啟宗教與自然宗教得到契合的象徵的中介之存有——這就是亞歷背面出現的那一陰陽魚的原因，故，亞猶若癲人莊子般，放火焚燒自家的別墅，而這一切皆標示著人類重投自然之道。
   但最後，亞仍舊被近代科學精神下的囚籠——精神病院機制的坐騎所挾持。唯有亞歷山大兒子仍舊重複地種著那課象徵自然及生命循環的日本樹，嘴裡念念不忘著父親——這是一棵令基督教式的犧牲，重新在自然之道中重生、並以遺忘的表像記憶（重生的圓圈）或獲得真正遺忘（空空）的自然.世界.宇宙之樹是也。