长篇影评
1 ) Again,thank you
"That Vizzini,he can..fuss
Fuss,fuss..I think he like to scream..at us.
Probably he means no..harm
He's really very short on...charm.
You have a great gift of rhyme.
Yes,yes,some of the time.
哈哈!有趣.
那么紧凑,所以我再看一遍..那么多细节与humor.I love it.
2 ) 旧梦重温,依旧经典
旧梦重温,虽然有些镜头现在看来有些不合理,可此片依旧经典,女主角真是越看越丑。男主角真的很有味道,以前看得时候就爱死他了,可惜现在我长大了,他也老了。最可怕的他居然出演过爱情无线牵,可是我怎么没认出他是哪一个.
3 ) 公主梦
我给好评有很多原因:看完电影整个世界都美好了很多,如今给成年人和小孩子的童话不多了。整个故事是童话也是对童话的satire 非常欢乐。叙事非常巧妙 以爷爷给孙子讲故事的方式讲王子公主,观众反而没机会说:不就是个故事吗童话是假的。看似就是个黏糊糊的公主故事,小男孩抱怨,爷爷说别急后面都有;吻戏太多,小男孩抱怨,爷爷说那你还想不想听;坏人看似要赢,小男孩着急,爷爷说我照着故事念的你不听那我先讲到这?孙子的视角就是各类年龄群的观众视角:小男孩喜欢打斗战争巨人海盗传奇冒险,小女孩喜欢公主王子爱情故事亲亲我我,而成年人这些都喜欢。小时候向往的公主裙公主梦都在这个电影里
4 ) 大爱无疆
看这部片子是在这个暑假和舍友一起看的。
我总是相信每个人心里都有最纯真的一个角落,而这份纯真可以用看过的一部电影或者电影里的一个镜头一段情节,又或者是一首歌曲来诠释。
对于我来说,每次想到纯真纯美的东西,我就会想到《公主新娘》。如果说波顿的小爱德华是黑色童话的代表,那么《公主新娘》的纯美童话一定是能与之相映衬的正面代表作。她满足了我们小时候听的童话故事的所有幻想,正义与邪恶,王子与公主。
这样的一部电影,要拍出来让人喜欢,那本来就是一个巨大的困难吧,但是《公主新娘》做到了这一点。所以我力荐它。
一看就爱上了这部电影,虽然很童话,我希望以后也能念给我的孩子听(*^__^*) 嘻嘻
影片的开头好浪漫好美,男主角真是惊鸿一瞥,美的让人窒息。
女主角是《阿甘正传》里的Jenny,虽然整部影片构思平平,有些幼稚。
听到爷爷的讲话声,一下回到几年前,夜晚的电台广播里播放的儿童世界
明天已在眼前 风吹过的 路依然远 你的故事讲到了哪。
人生或许就是如此吧。谁也不知道人生的下一秒会发生什么,但我们应该学会的是过好这一秒
别让伟大的理想成为辜负的理由! 努努力力的干,为了真爱,干翻它
5 ) 最恶搞的童话,最童话的恶搞
很久很久以前,熬夜看了这部imdb评分奇高的老电影。我本来期待一个俗气冒泡的童话故事,结果里面的恶搞桥段简直要把我逗死了,况且故事本身就很不错了,即便情节上有些小小漏洞,还是瑕不掩瑜的好看!
有个大眼睛的可爱小男孩生病了,他的爷爷为了安慰他,特意来给他讲故事。小男孩满不情愿地放下手中的棒球游戏,很提不起精神来地听童话故事,还时不时地插几句嘴。
故事很简单啦,美女生活在农场,经常支使帅哥干活,帅哥每次都如她所愿地完成任务,日久情深,美女和帅哥相爱了。然后帅哥去航海赚钱,美女在农场等到的是帅哥被海盗杀害的消息。五年后,她接受了王子的求婚,住进了城堡。不料某天,三个坏人出现劫持了美女,想在两国边界杀掉她引起战争。在带着美女去邻国的途中,他们遇到了一个黑衣人的追踪,黑衣人解决了坏人,救出了美女,然后揭晓了自己就是当年被误传已死的帅哥。美女帅哥冰释前嫌。为了摆脱前来救人的王子,两人穿越了火沼泽,但最终还是被王子擒住了。王子带美女回堡,条件是不伤害帅哥,但背地里王子把帅哥囚禁在绝望渊。美女几经反复,终于决心跟随真爱,她要求王子召回帅哥,否则就宁死不嫁。王子假意应承,其实他想在新婚夜杀死美女,以挑起两国战争,之前的坏人也是他雇来的。于是,帅哥在备受折磨,美女被蒙在鼓里。好在之前劫走美女的坏人中的两个并不是那么坏,他们只是被雇来行事的,其中剑客的仇人正是折磨帅哥的宰相,另一位巨人则是凑热闹来帮忙,他们从绝望渊救出了奄奄一息的帅哥,送到巫师那里求了一个奇迹。帅哥复活,但全身无力。于是三人设计吓跑了城堡前的六十守卫,冲进堡中,杀了仇人,辱了王子,救了美女,从此小两口幸福地生活在了一起。
哈,还是很不错的童话故事吧?主要是里面好多胳肢人的地方。比如听故事的小男孩,动不动就受不了帅哥美女亲来亲去,直呼腻歪,到后来他竟抗议起美女要嫁给王子,还嚷嚷不公平,直到结尾,还强烈要求爷爷把略去的热吻一段给他补回来。总之,逗乐得不行~
把从故事中学到的道理总结一下:
1、如果一个人总能事事如你所愿,而你也毫无愧疚地去支使人家,那十有八九你俩要结连理了。
2、as you wish是一句魔咒。会勾去人心哟。
3、 我再也不会爱上别人了——刚失恋的小青年常挂在嘴边,其实过不了多久就违誓了。
4、有怪人问路要谨慎。
5、坏人的口头禅都很无聊,eg:unconceivable?!
6、需要喝毒酒撞运气时,逻辑分析那一套都不顶用,最好是有解药或者百毒不侵。
7、如果你相信你和他之间是真爱的话,那就不要担心会有路人甲乙丙什么的来干扰,真爱总会有happy ending的,尤其在故事里。
8、不要相信盛传的虚名,往往名不符实;不要相信帅哥在你面前逞强的话,很快他就会不得不把那句话吞回去。
9、女生可以娇气,但不能不勇敢,累赘谁都会厌倦。
10、生活确实不公平,但童话总是恶有恶报,善得善终的。
11、奇迹确实存在,但有时候它发生得并不那么神奇,所以你都没意识到那是奇迹。
6 ) 公主新娘里的谈判
这学期上了一门谈判课,要写一篇期末论文。想不出什么好题目,就看了看给了六星的那些电影,觉得公主新娘里的谈判很有意思。
I. Introduction
Negotiations are everywhere, whether at work, in life, or in fairy tales. In this paper, I analyze the movie Princess Bride from the perspective of negotiations and draw some lessons that negotiators can learn from its characters and the movie as a whole.
The paper will be organized as followings. In Part II, a brief summary of the plot will be offered so that the reader does not have to re-watch the movie (though I cannot conceive any reason why anyone would forgo any excuse to re-watch Princess Bride). In Part III, I analyze the negotiations between Westley and the three kidnappers. Part IV will focus on a brief episode of the movie where Miracle Max decides to resurrect Westley. Finally, the paper concludes with some general lessons from Princess Bride in Part V.
II. Plot Summary
The movie begins with the frame story, where a small boy is sick and his grandfather comes to visit him. The grandfather affectionately pinches the small boy’s cheek (which the small boy hates) and begins to read a storybook (to which the small boy reluctantly acquiesces and graciously promises to try to stay awake).
The main story is the story the grandfather reads from the book. A young woman named Buttercup lives on a farm. Whenever she gives orders to the farm boy Westley, the farm boy always replies “as you wish” and happily does what she instructs him to do. Eventually, Buttercup realizes “as you wish” means “I love you” and they fall in love. In order to get married, Westley goes away to seek his fortunate. However, news comes to Buttercup that Westley died from a pirate attack.
Five years later, Buttercup decides to marry Prince Humperdinck. Before the wedding, Buttercup is kidnapped by a group of three kidnappers: the boss Vizzini, the giant Fezzik, and the fencer Inigo Montoya (who seeks to take a revenge on a six-fingered man who killed his father). It is later revealed that the kidnappers are hired by Prince Humperdinck to kill Buttercup and frame the prince’s enemy country to serve as a pretext to start a war. The kidnappers are chased by Westley (who, as it turns out, did not die) wearing a black mask and by Prince Humperdinck leading a small army. Miraculously, Westley beats the three kidnappers in three separate encounters: he first wins a fencing combat with Inigo Montoya, then prevails over the giant in a hand-to-hand fight, and finally outsmarts Vizzini in a battle of the wits.
Shortly after Westley reunites with Buttercup, the prince’s army catches up with them, “rescues” Buttercup and captures Westley. The prince tortures Westley to death, but Westley is resurrected by Miracle Max. Inigo Montoya, the giant, and Westley invades the prince’s palace and rescues Buttercup.
At the end of the story, the small boy invites the grandfather to come back again, to which the grandfather replies, “as you wish.”
III. Negotiating with Kidnappers
One brilliant aspect of Princess Bride is its surprising and comic element. The title and general plot suggest a typical fairy tale with a hero undertaking a grueling adventure, beating all his enemies, rescuing his princess and living happily ever after with her. Although this is exactly what happens in Princess Bride, the process by which the happy ending is accomplished is very different from a typical Disney movie.
In particular, the protagonist Westley is not like typical Disney heroes that are strong, brave, and invincible. It seems that each of his victories is attributable more to his good fortune than to his bravery and strength.
Re-watching the movie after taking the Negotiation Workshop, however, I realize what I used to characterize as “good fortunate” are actually negotiating skills.
A first example is Westley’s negotiation with Inigo Montoya at the Cliffs of Insanity. After the three kidnappers and Buttercup climb up the cliffs with a rope, Westley is following them with the same rope. The kidnappers cut the rope after they reach the top, but Westley hangs on to the rocks of the cliffs. Vizzini leaves Inigo Montoya to wait at the cliffs to either see Westley fall or kill him. The following conversation occurs between Westley hanging onto the cliffs and trying to climb up and Inigo Montoya waiting at the top.
Inigo Montoya: Hello there! Slow going?
Westley: Look, I don’t mean to be rude, but this is not as easy as it looks. So I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t distract me.
Inigo Montoya: Sorry.
Westley: Thank you!
Inigo Montoya (after practicing fencing for a few strokes): I don’t suppose you could speed things up?
Westley: If you are in such a hurry, you could lower a rope or a tree branch or find something useful to do.
Inigo Montoya: I could do that. I got some rope up here, but I do not think you would accept my help since I am only waiting around to kill you.
Westley: That does put a damper on our relationship.
Inigo Montoya: But I promise I won’t kill you until you reach the top.
Westley: That’s very comforting, but I’m afraid you’ll just have to wait.
Inigo Montoya: I hate waiting … I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya, you will reach the top alive.
Westley: Throw me the rope.
The parties begin this negotiation without setting up a process, which is understandable since Inigo Montoya is in a hurry to kill Westley and Westley is busy staying alive by grasping onto the cliffs. Inigo Montoya shares his interest to have Westley climb up faster. Westley responds by proposing options, such as lowering a rope or some tree branches (or a ladder). Luckily enough, Inigo Montoya does have a rope.
Even though the substantive component of the negotiation is going well, the parties reach a deadlock because of a relationship issue: Inigo Montoya destroys the trust between the parties by reminding Westley that he is only waiting here to kill Westley. In the end, Inigo Montoya has to invoke a criterion, a swear on the soul of his father, in order to rebuild the trust.
The first interesting point about this negotiation is that the setup is similar to (but not the same as) the prisoner’s dilemma. Each party has a cooperative option and a defaulting option: Inigo Montoya can cooperate by throwing down the rope and can default by killing Westley while the latter is about to climb to the top; Westley can cooperate by accepting Inigo Montoya’s help and can default by keeping him wait.
This leads to a second interesting point: a shift in bargaining power. The initial setup leaves Westley with very little bargaining power: his defaulting option does not hurt Inigo Montoya and is very risky for himself since he will likely become exhausted and fall down the abyss; on the other hand, Inigo Montoya’s defaulting option will take Westley’s life. Nevertheless, Inigo Montoya’s impatience shifts the bargaining power balance to Westley’s favor since the possibility of waiting for a long time is very unacceptable to him. As a result, he has to swear on his father’s soul to make Westley trust him.
Third, the parties create value by resolving their differences in forecasts with a contingent contract. As demonstrated by his earlier comment to the giant, Inigo Montoya is positive that he will win a fencing battle with Westley since he even plans to use his left hand although he is right-handed. Similarly, Westley is also confident that he will win because he also begins the battle with his left hand when he too is right-handed.
With their different forecasts, their negotiation could reach an impasse with Inigo Montoya saying “since I will kill you anyway, why don’t you save us some time by jumping down the cliff yourself” and Westley saying “since I am a much better fencer than you, please just find a rock and knock yourself out. Wait, throw me the rope before you do that!”
Instead, the parties resolve their differences by agreeing to a contingent contract: a duel. Since either side thinks he is better than the other side, a duel is acceptable to them both. In the end, Westley knocks out Inigo Montoya and continues his chase.
Realizing that Westley is still chasing after them, Vizzini orders the giant to kill Westley. When they meet each other, the giant could easily have killed Westley by throwing a stone. Instead, he proposes that they drop their weapons and fight with hands only. Unfortunately, instead of doing what a principled negotiator would do (i.e. convincing Westley with reason and criteria that a hand-to-hand fight is more sportsmanlike and civilized), the giant resorts to threat by telling Westley that if Westley does not agree to a hand-to-hand fight he will kill him with a stone now.
Similar to the encounter between Westley and Inigo Montoya, the giant’s take-it-or-take-the-stone proposal is also a contingent contract: since the giant is certain that his physical strength will outperform that of Westley, he does not mind settling it with a hand-to-hand fight.
In yet another effort to make Princess Bride a full-length movie, Westley miraculously chokes the giant and goes on to chase Vizzini and Buttercup.
When Westley finally meets Vizzini, the latter is holding a knife against Buttercup’s neck. The following conversation occurs.
Vizzini (while Westley is walking closer): If you wish her dead, by all means, keep moving forward.
Westley: Let me explain.
Vizzini: There is nothing to explain. You’re trying to kidnap what I’ve rightfully stolen.
Westley: Perhaps … an arrangement could be made.
Vizzini: There will be no arrangement … I can’t compete with you physically, and you are no match for my brains.
Westley: You’re that smart?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way: have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Westley: Yes?
Vizzini: Morons!
Westley: Really? In that case, I challenge you in a battle of wits.
Vizzini: I accept.
Right from the start, Vizzini is employing two difficult tactics: using threat and refusing to negotiate. On the other hand, Vizzini should be commended for establishing the legitimacy of his position (by accusing Westley of trying to kidnap what he has rightfully stolen) and invoking objective criteria to show how smart he is.
As a skillful and by then experienced negotiator, Westley successfully reaches a deal with Vizzini by proposing the same kind of arrangement with Inigo Montoya and the giant: a contingent contract. Since Vizzini is confident that he is so much smarter than Westley, he should be willing to accept a contingent arrangement in which the wittier side will triumph.
Coming up with this proposal demonstrates that Westley is not only good at getting to yes but also fluent in active listening skills and knowledgeable about difficult conversations. Firstly, he listens carefully and catches a key piece of information, namely that Vizzini thinks Westley is no match for his brains. Secondly, he succinctly paraphrases “no match for my brains” with “smart” and inquires further about Vizzini’s smartness. Finally, Westley proposes a battle of the wits knowing that Vizzini cannot refuse it, because of the identity conversation: if Vizzini refuses Westley’s proposal after asserting his intelligence, his identity will be threatened because others may think Vizzini is not that smart and is a liar.
As expected, Westley prevails again in the battle with Vizzini and reunites with Buttercup.
In all three encounters, Westley has very little bargaining power to begin with: he is holding onto the cliffs while Inigo Montoya is waiting at the top, the giant could easily shatter him into pieces with a stone, and he has to do whatever Vizzini asks him to do as Buttercup’s life is at stake. However, in each encounter, through skillful negotiations, Westley is able to reverse the unfavorable position and get the other party to agree to a process that Westley has a reasonable chance of success. One lesson for negotiators is that: do not give up easily, for you never know when the other side’s impatience, arrogance, and vanity will work wonders.
IV. Resurrection Negotiation
After Westley is tortured to death, Inigo Montoya and the giant find his body and try to bring him back to life by seeking help from Miracle Max.
Inigo Montoya knocks at Miracle Max’s door and asks whether he is the Miracle Max who worked for the king. Miracle Max replies, “the king’s stinking son (Prince Humperdinck) fired me and thank you so much for bring such a painful subject.” After hearing this, Inigo Montoya simply says that he needs a miracle and it is very important. What he can do differently next time is to apologize and acknowledge Miracle Max’s feelings.
Luckily, Miracle Max agrees to take a look and the following conversation happens between him and Inigo Montoya.
Miracle Max: You got money?
Inigo Montoya: 65 dollars.
Miracle Max: I never worked for so little … except once, and that was a very noble cause.
Inigo Montoya: This is noble, sir. His wife is crippled. His children are on the brink of starvation.
Miracle Max: Are you a rotten liar?
Inigo Montoya: I need him to help revenge for my father, murdered 20 years ago.
Miracle Max: Your first story was better.
Inigo Montoya: This is Buttercup’s true love. If you heal him, he will stop Humperdinck’s wedding.
Miracle Max: I make him better, Humperdinck suffers? That’s a noble cause. Give me 65, I’m on the job.
This episode demonstrates the importance of exploring interests and emotions. In a negotiation, it is advisable for parties to share interests so that they can find value-creating opportunities. In this particular negotiation, Miracle Max does a great job sharing his interests and feelings: he only works for much more than 65 dollars but he is willing to make exceptions for noble causes, and he still bears grudges against Prince Humperdinck for firing him. In contrast, probably because of his impatience, Inigo Montoya does not adequately share information with Miracle Max and does not pay enough attention to the interests and feelings expressed by Miracle Max. Fortunately, in the end, the parties realize that resurrecting Westley will meet the interests of both: helping Inigo Montoya revenge for his father and enabling Miracle Max to get back at Prince Humperdinck.
Another lesson from this episode is the danger of lying. Upon hearing that Miracle Max is willing to work for less if there is a noble cause, Inigo Montoya fabricates a crippled wife and starving children. Miracle Max skillfully names Inigo Montoya’s game by calling him a rotten liar. Furthermore, Inigo Montoya’s lie destroys Miracle Max’s trust so that the latter no longer believes him even when he is telling the truth about revenging for his father.
V. When Not to Negotiate
One great thing about the Negotiation Workshop is making us realize how useful and ubiquitous negotiations are in real life. Naturally, we are excited to engage in more negotiations and further develop negotiating skills after the course.
Meanwhile, it is also important to be aware of the limits of negotiation and know when not to negotiate. In that regard, Princess Bride offers some suggestions.
I discussed how Westley overcomes his adverse positions through negotiations. The flip side of that is, the kidnappers lose their battles precisely because they decide to negotiate. Negotiation is not the only legitimate way to resolve issues. If you are in a favorable position or have a lot of bargaining power, so long as such position and power are not obtained through illicit or unethical means, it is okay to take advantage of them. For instance, in Vizzini’s case, when someone in a black mask is trying to kidnap the person he has rightfully stolen, he should not feel obligated to negotiate.
The grandfather probably knows very well that the grandson does not like him to visit and does not like it when he pinches his cheek. However, instead of trying to negotiate with and persuade his grandson, he just visits and pinches his cheek, perhaps knowing that one day the grandson will miss the cheek-pinching grandfather all too dearly.
Other times, it is best just to agree to whatever the other side wants. Compared to “I am not a pushover; you are giving too many unreasonable orders, and in disrespectful ways” and “I have a lot of things to do tomorrow, and I already visited you today, so I’m afraid I won’t be able to come back tomorrow to read you more stories,” a simpler and better alternative would be “as you wish.”
我不知道这个片子为什么评分这么低,但是我认为倘若我有一天回国去教书,这部片子是用来介绍美国90年代青少年文化以及幽默的重要材料···
我真的不知道为什么在ibdm上为什么有那么高的评分,在我看来这部电影真的是一无是处,里面的人物是我所看过的电影里面的最做作的一群人,根本谈不上演技么,全都是提线木偶,台词好像都没背熟吧,对话都是硬生生的,看的我频频快进,真觉得是在浪费时间……亏我还存了那么久看……就开头还有点小清新…
原来是九日皇后中的他。“as you wish”
公主新娘属于那种在美国享有盛誉一度荣居IMDB#250而在中国始终保持低调不过造成这一落差的根本原因与咱家审美没有太多干系所获盛名总体是由广大本土影迷的成长经历童年记忆主导使然类的电影……https://www.douban.com/people/hitchitsch/status/2338271121/
7.0/10 分。初看,CC重制版蓝光。比较幼稚美好的童话,比迪士尼还迪士尼。。。没有认出年轻时的罗宾·怀特来,只是感觉她有点脸熟。。。好多美剧里熟悉的角色,《国土安全》曼迪·帕廷金,《傲骨贤妻》华莱士·肖恩,等等。。。按照1987年来说,真的可以打个8分,可惜这样美好的爱情童话故事实在是太老套了。。。放今天,女权斗士就会问,为啥公主就不能直接把男主和王子全要了。。反正十万年前的女人是可以找一堆男人当老公的。。。哈哈。。。CC版蓝光修复得不错,甚至比一些厂家修复版还要稍微好点。。。
ok 像是舞台剧一样的电影 简单的人物简单的场景简单的故事 女主形象不爱人物不爱 完全花瓶 在一起历经生死的时候她呆愣在旁能气死我 不过后半部分 三人行有些看头 很搞笑 最后 男主挺帅
有是一位梦中情人式的男主角……
6。有点搞笑,不过既然角色要傻逼,就要像《巨蟒和圣杯》里那样。然而这是童话式,后者是恶搞,还是有区别的。
音乐、歌曲太好听了,浪漫、动人的 I Will Never Love Again & Storybook Love!还有那句经典的"As You Wish"~
封面居然转180°后还是PRINCESS BRIDE http://jandan.net/2009/01/20/jan-en-princess-bride.htmlas you wish生活不都是公平的
1988年奥斯卡最佳音乐奖、1987年多伦多国际电影节民选奖、IMDB: 8.2/10 (92,530 votes) Top 250: #155、2010英国卫报25部经典科幻/奇幻片之一……如此之高的口碑实在郁闷,真不明白老外为何好这口?
8.8;crippling humor, dizzying intellect, inconceivable!
看似复古的童话故事却有许多颠覆幽默之处。"Hello.My name is Inigo Montoya.You killed my father.Prepare to die." 这段很有力度。
之前看《生活大爆炸》的时候,就被拉杰什洗脑,他最爱念叨的一部电影,还有一集击剑也跟这部电影有一个情节有关。一开始以为会是《大鱼》,结果偏喜剧,甚至是有些恶搞,很一般的情节,可能过了会喜欢这部电影的年纪了吧。
俗套文本搭载书中书式嵌套结构,指向的其实是“浪漫”的被创造,在戏剧逻辑纬度,反现实逻辑的“奇迹”便是浪漫的变体
Rajesh最喜欢的电影,美国影视剧中常提到的pop culture reference,名台词有"As you wish", "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
不错的改编,但总没原著好。“Words followed her. Whispered from far, weak and warm and familiar. “As . . . you . . . wish . . .”
因为题材一直提不起兴趣看,没想到是无厘头搞笑纯爱童话哈哈哈,一边讲一边进行自我吐槽真是😂...
外教选的片子实在恶搞 意外发现这部恶搞童话IMDB前200 估计古早以前的童话就是这么可爱吧
电影是基于William Goldman的小说改编的,一个充满幽默、动作和浪漫的童话故事。一部很好的家庭影片。