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搜了好久,蓦然回首歌单就在Spotify,感谢互联网。
年度最佳music supervisor电影。
(虽然对用繁衍/后代来challenge同性恋有点一言难尽)
从电影一开始我就知道我应该会喜欢它。长镜头下的自然风光,vicky对母亲那种微妙的依恋(不过真的没有恋母情结吗?)。
嗅觉的线索让我莫名想起了以女性凝视为主题的烧女图。《烧女图》里二人充满爱意的对视,使得她们忘却了一切枷锁与燃烧的裙摆,《五恶魔》里乔安娜无数次想跳下深渊拯救她的爱人,亲吻的时候她说我会帮你,在小树林里她说我们一起逃出小镇,大火前她也毅然决然回头看向爱人。
不过嗅觉在此如果仅是“穿越的契机”好像有些可惜。很喜欢一些影评对嗅觉的解读。我觉得嗅觉上的熟悉感似乎更为熟悉,不仅仅是女儿对母亲的依恋,也应当是女主对过往爱恋、甚至对曾经那个生动的自己的怀念。一种身体本能的、潜意识里的冲动。
好喜欢整部电影的氛围。法国北部小镇,雪山下湖泊边,燃烧的篝火,后青春期的诗。虽然还是欧美故事中常见的那种由性、酗酒组成的青春,不过居然和真爱不矛盾。ktv那段狠狠代入了,跑了的音调,难以抑制的爱意,turn around, every now and then i get a little bit lonely.你不知道你走了之后我有多孤独。
整部电影中女主和整座小城一样了无生气,对女儿的爱看上去也是责任大于本真的爱?唯独插叙中的青春期片段、和爱人在厨房甩章鱼、喝醉后拉着前女友唱歌的片段有过发自内心的笑容。
美中不足的是结尾,好莫名其妙的和解。短短九十分手夹杂了太多意义:同性恋、同夫、移民、种族、家庭伦理……不过意外地没有堆砌之嫌。n角恋倒也不招人讨厌。
荒谬当道,爱拯救之。
说实话看完挺喜欢的,但是看不懂的地方也确实看不懂…
为什么叫五恶魔?哪里有恶魔👿?
瓶子哪里来的?Julia不知道瓶子的存在吗?知道的话不知道它丢了吗?Julia提到什么纳米什么技术,瓶子是她现在工作的产品?那她不知道作用吗?
妈妈是怎么把Jimmy抢走的?Jimmy不是一直喜欢毁容姐吗?毁容以后也喜欢,还doi了呢…如果是因为Julia放火才结的婚,那不更应该娶毁容姐吗???
结尾的小女孩是谁?我倾向于闻到瓶子的当下发生穿越,所以应该是从未来穿越回来的,那么只能是Vicky再大一些or谁的下一代
还有好些设定太巧合了,铺垫的太刻意了,没有必要
电影整体节奏和设定还蛮喜欢的
看了一些評論~似乎都沒說到重點~結尾出現的小女孩就是女主女兒的姑姑~這個家族并不是只有那個女兒發現了回到過去的秘密~姑姑看到女主女兒很害怕的原因就是~知道自己不可能和女孩母親在一起了~女兒出現就意味着和情人最終沒能在一起~想放棄又難以割捨·姑姑的能力已經不只是回到過去~還可以看到未來~她看到女孩為什麼不告訴情人看到的是誰~這就說明她知道是情人的女兒~自己的侄女~姑姑小的時候就看到了一切~卻不能改變~畢竟是自己的侄女~改變一切等於殺了侄女~姑姑不喜歡侄女~是因為她奪走了自己的所愛~但也不能恨侄女~那是自己的親人~內心非常矛盾和糾結~而最後一幕~爸爸抱著女兒快樂的玩耍~姑姑小的時候就已經看到了~最終女兒希望姑姑活着~父親的悲傷也被女兒的愛所拯救~兩個人都放手讓媽媽和姑姑追求幸福~算是圓滿的結局吧~
“在我不存在之前你爱我吗?” 是只能被Julia看到的那个之前吗 那恐怕回答不会是Always/我理想的爱情是超过亲情友情的 但就只能仅仅是理想
几个问题:
Vicky绝顶的嗅觉有什么用吗?
Julia为什么认不出Vicky?
:我想或者Julia是看到贺卡才选择回来找Joanne的吗(贺卡照片上有Vicky?
Joanne为什么游泳?
Joanne怎么抢走Jimmy的?他俩到底为啥在一起?(°_°)
:Joanne是被追求的吧 感觉Jimmy是喜欢Joanne的 至于Jimmy跟脸脸为啥do 应该是Jimmy太累了?
Jimmy最初在消防站上班的镜头有什么玄机吗?
Vicky怎么知道Julia在湖边?
最后的小女孩是谁?
:我的猜想 或许Vicky收集了那么多妈妈的味道 并不是因为什么嗅觉 或许她跟Julia的身份一样 那可能她也有一个小女孩儿 /循环了
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镜头都很好看 配乐也都蛮好的 片尾的歌好喜欢 尝试了q音和☁️都搜不到(;_;) 看完觉得故事很真
Slashfilm记者Lex Briscuso采访演员阿黛尔、导演蕾雅·梅西斯、共同编剧保罗·圭哈姆。
关于电影的主题、片名的意义、演员的选择、表演的感受、对观众的期望。
原文链接:Slashfilm
截取部分问题,以下是采访原文:
Lex Briscuso: How was this story born from within you? What influenced you or inspired you? It's a very unique story yet it plays with a lot of really universal themes.
蕾雅·梅西斯: The idea came from a personal interest. You know, I've always been very interested in smells and aromas and scents since I was a child. I used to play with my twin sister and we [would] concoct different potions and try to make up cigarettes with flowers that we picked up in the grass and in the wilderness. It's an interest that I've been cultivating up to now. I like to guess the elements that make up a perfume on someone, or the smells that I smell in the street. But, I did not want to set a film in the perfumery industry. I wanted it to be a more primal, primitive story, more central and sensory oriented.
So I had this idea of having this little girl with these unusual powers, and the character was much influenced by the fact that I was reading a lot of American literature at the time, James Baldwin, Jim Harrison, and Maya Angelou. In those novels, the fact that the characters and the places become legends and they deal with universal themes is what really inspired me. So, I wanted this little child to wonder where she's coming from, and to wonder the extent of her mother's love, a mother who somehow is hiding a secret, and she knows that she's hiding a secret. She's trying to do all she can in order to disclose [her mother's] past.
Lex Briscuso: 'The Five Devils' being the name of the sports center, and even the lake, is incredibly clever, especially because it ties into the five leads of the film. Why did you settle on this title? And were there ever any other titles that you considered?
蕾雅·梅西斯: I don't know how we thought about it. I later realized that it's five characters, actually. It's another element that reminds us of the figure. I like those kinds of titles, though. When I was looking for them, I thought about [Ingmar Bergman's] "The Seven Seal," for instance. I like titles that are made of numbers and words that somehow make us think about legendary things.
Lex Briscuso: What made you want to open the film with that image of Adèle [as Joanne]? It's incredibly powerful and it sucks you right into the film. It also plays into the theme of the gaze, which I feel is so prevalent in this film. Everyone is just staring at each other down a lot of the time.
蕾雅·梅西斯: It was the first image that I had in mind when I started writing. This young woman turning in front of the fire and yelling. I was [starting from] [starting from] this specific image [through which] I developed the screenplay. And then I read a novel by a French thinker and intellectual that's called "The Sexual Night." It's Pascal Quignard. He talks about the invisible scenes, the scene that all children dream of being able to watch. And they cannot, because it's something that precedes their birth and so they can never see it. But it's a scene that is very violent. It's the symbol of total chaos with fire and massacre and a lot of violence.
Of course, it's the scene that cannot be seen because [it's] the scene of the intercourse that allowed the child to be conceived and the child is not entitled to see it. But it's that kind of primal and primitive image that I thought of. I thought it was a good way of starting the film. It sets us immediately [into] the main theme of the film, about the quest for the mother and what she's hiding. And it allowed us to be with that image throughout the film. [When] we meet Joanne in the swimming pool and we see her eyes and her gaze, we know that we have seen that scene originally. So it accompanies us.
Lex Briscuso: What do you both want the audience to take away from the ending of this film?
蕾雅·梅西斯: What I like the audience to feel is that when they walk out of the theater, [they feel] that they experienced a very strong, even funny moment with strong emotions. But then I would love them [in] a few hours to ponder, to go back on it and have other emotion surfacing and meditations and thoughts for thoughts.
阿黛尔: What I like in this movie, and that's what I love in [Lea's first feature] "Ava," is that it's playful. Like you participated. It's more something growing up inside you after. I would be excited that people might think through stuff. But to be honest, it's the fact that you can take a direction in your life. And sometimes we don't ask ourselves, "But what if [I do] this?" Secondly, it's a movie where I'm going out and I'm asking myself questions, but not just like, "Who is this girl?" The most important [thing for people to take away] is just keep working and asking questions.
Vicky这配魔药水平不去霍格沃茨可惜了
A total eclipse of the heart(阿黛尔又演拉拉
#BJIFF#低配惊悚版《奥林匹亚街区》+《小妈妈》,看完最直观的感受是,原来你们欧洲作者电影的同质化也这么严重哇(不过导演确实是《奥林匹亚街区》的编剧就是了,只是导演能力尚处在起步阶段)惊悚片时刻出现的时候尚存惊喜,越靠后越往普世价值走,然后就变得异常普通了
博人眼球罢了。
大冤种同夫和女儿的一生…哈哈好狗血的故事,黑人男主明知妹妹跟自己的白人老婆有一腿,还留她住在家里?闭塞的湖畔小镇美丽却压抑。小女孩收集人身上的气味,然后闻一下就能穿越回到过去这个设定蛮有意思的,可惜后来没有更多有趣的展开,停留在了狗血多角关系上。阿呆已经摆脱不掉拉拉气了(电影节神茶还是能宽松点)
编剧真的很好,巧妙地融合了性别性向、种族移民各种议题,最终形成一个忧郁的循环。除了缺点史诗味,可以称得上是小《暴雨将至》
又名《嗅觉神探》
7.0 某种《闪灵》的衍生,不乏虚张声势的桥段(开头尤其),但能把这样一个将秘密全盘平摊的剧本拍得足够吸引人还是有点本事的,让同性和母女之情混杂在了一起,结尾多此一举了。
#2022BJIFF#首尾互文的暗黑女同故事,视听效果大于内容。把香味连接记忆的这种通感影像化挺新奇的,Adèle的兔牙好可爱
维琪视角是不断回到过去,不断了解母亲和自己姑姑之间曾有过的情感。姑姑小时候的模样出现在结尾,她凝视着自己的侄女和自己的哥哥,她在成长的过程中一直知道这些,她预见了自己未来。惊悚感来自镜头选择、剪辑和配乐共同作用。人们在一些特定状态下发现的真相,却往往被视作疯子。这些吓人的疯狂背后其实暗藏了非常温暖人心的力量。姑姑没有为了自己和乔安娜在一起而损害侄女,她和乔安娜都做不到。但是结尾留了一个希望。维琪不也是通过不断发现过去真正了解了母亲吗?是有点融合了《小妈妈》的意思。
立足孩童视角揭秘一段尘封「往事」,过程却颇为玄幻。以「气味」为引刺探心魔,看来欧洲人的「香水梗」果然是过不去了。导演审美值得点赞,视听、节奏、色彩、摄影、配乐均一流水准,并能够在同质化作品横行的当下(《小妈妈》等)以独特手段呈现多重元素,将家庭友情真爱等杂谈合理串联,这便已属不易,相当值了。(忍痛扣半星在逻辑推进,左思右想也难以说通自己信服)
#戛纳2022# 导演的《艾娃》之后五年再次回归,中间没有做导演而是做为编剧《奥林匹亚街区》2021戛纳电影节《鲁贝之灯》2019戛纳电影节 《告别黑夜》柏林电影节《正午之星》戛纳电影节...高产啊 而且居然是89年的年轻创作者...编了这么多还自己做导演了这部...影片聚焦LGBT家庭 小女孩视角来观察整个家庭人员的关系 小女孩商城推车的镜头很好...
No.9191. #12nd BJIFF# 前入围2022导演双周。这片怎么能过北影节的审可能是今年最大的未解之谜之一,内地大银幕上看女女激吻且不止一次且明确说了是同性恋……嗯其实还是挺难得的体验吧(因此可以加到四星了)。片子本身其实不如导演前作《艾娃》,时间线的写法还不错,奇情狗血有余,设定其实算是对《香水》的一个非常有意思的发展,但是最后套是没解的(表明解了那不能算)。视听上也没有前作那么多炸裂式的段落(当然用上BGM歌曲就马上不一样了!)。
真姬不怕火炼,真姬不畏水寒,真姬无人能挡,真姬爱满阳间
#BJIFF12#元素太多,很多天花乱坠的剧情以外的东西,只有故事线没有剧情,逻辑和情感共鸣都因故事的不完整而成了硬伤。虽然观赏性很高,你不能让我光看个花活集锦。
终于有只属于女性的俄狄浦斯了。vicky制造的数次闪回好像一个外祖母悖论,如果我的母亲选择了她的同性爱人,我还会存在吗?但美妙的是她并没有停在这里,而是问,如果我不存在,妈妈你还会爱我吗?所以vicky与茨威格爱写的搅局男孩不同,这是一种只关乎于爱慕而非占有的嫉妒,因为妈妈并不能被装进罐子,是她皮肤的气息连同女儿的神秘嗅觉一起完成了母亲的定义。所以也只有女儿可以通过“我之前”黑色的瓶子闻到妈妈曾经的可能性。最后的开放性结局很有意思,Julia看到的女孩一直不是Vicky,也就是说,引向既成事实的并不是穿越的事实,我只能说,她的样貌和肤色好像是Julia和Joanna共同的孩子。PS:阿黛尔美的要命,章鱼,跑调,光线里的蝴蝶骨,我还是觉得她有一张真正圣母的脸。
“被弃”的薇琪和父亲抱团取暖,他们身后凭空出现了另一个女孩,这最后一幕其实就是点题:薇琪并没有穿越到过去成为只有朱莉亚才能看到的魔鬼,薇琪只是朱莉亚的心魔;而另一个女孩则是薇琪的心魔——她已经跟朱莉亚一样感受到了爱的恐惧——因为爱,所以恐惧。
刚开始我还以为小女孩有点恋母情结,后来知道她对气味敏感以后才觉得稍微合理一些。整部剧逻辑还是能自洽的,我其实julia是有备而来,她看到贺卡上面的vicky跟自己十年前见过的一样,才想到重回故地,这也解释了为啥当她见到vicky本人时没有惊讶,我甚至怀疑她也可以通过棕色瓶子里面的特殊气味穿越,她一直带着那个棕色瓶子,代表她也是靠回忆过去而活,没想到让小女孩作为酿成悲剧的工具了。至于最后结局处的小女孩,也许是vicky的孩子或者跟她有关的人,也是偶然回到过去,但又是一场悲剧的开端。 每个人都是为了自己的私欲,每个人都是恶魔。 不得不说,电影配乐和取景真惊艳,好久不看电影,巨幕的观影效果太赞了。
气味作为通道,让女孩化作幽魂,在两个时空穿梭旁观并最终成为旋转的一环。从地缘角度切入,山湖夹角下的阴郁小镇,巧妙的呈现肤色性向移民亲子等问题,营造出日常中的惊悚感。我们停滞不前,沉溺过去,其实只是丢了自我,陷于庸常。音乐大赞,希望有胶可收。
好俗套的故事啊……视听也没看出来什么亮点,女孩通过物品通感来进行时空转换的设定也太落伍了吧,20年前的游戏都不玩这个了。因为过于无聊以至于两位女主唱着心之全蚀的时候我只想在影院座位上魂穿TDV……8.13北影节